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Wendy Cohen

Cameron James(0:11) All right. (0:13) Hello, powerhouse, smart friends and colleagues. (0:16) Here we are at the powerhouse cool collabs podcast. (0:20) Today I have, uh, we have an awesome new guest on our podcast who I actually (0:27) had met from being introduced by Darren Leonardi, Darren Joshua photography. (0:33) Um, he, um, knows our guest well and said, Wendy, you are just going to (0:38) love everything that he stands for and what his business concept is. (0:43) And sure enough, Darren knows me for many, many years.(0:46) He was right on. (0:48) So I actually met Cam in person last week at the Naples Southwest (0:53) Florida luxury conference. (0:55) He drove in and he participated in our three events in Naples, and I am so (1:01) thrilled to have him here on our podcast.(1:04) So this is Cameron James, but I'm going to let him first give us an (1:08) introduction as to who he is, because I want to hear it right from (1:12) the inflection of his own voice. (1:14) So we're so excited to have you cam welcome to the podcast. (1:18) Please share with me in the audience, all about you and your story.

(2:11) Um, it's, it feels like the right place to be.(1:22) Absolutely. (1:23) Wendy, thank you so much for having me. (1:24) Um, it was an honor to get connected with the powerhouse, not smart (1:27) community down in Naples last week.(1:30) Um, so kind of where I'm at today, um, myself, I am in a co-owner of a (1:35) company called bring back Eden, where our goal is to bring the garden of Eden (1:38) to people's homes and in people's backyards, but not just beauty and (1:42) aesthetics, um, we actually build food forests in people's backyards. (1:45) So it's exactly what it sounds like. (1:47) We come in and actually reforest somebody's property with fruit trees, (1:51) berry bushes, edible greens all over the place.(1:54) And we work with, um, I mean, they become our friends to be honest with you. (1:58) We work with them long-term to help them develop the forest over time so that they (2:03) can have a clean local seasonal food supply system in their own backyards. (2:08) So, um, obviously getting connected with the powerhouse community.

Wendy Cohen

(2:33) But I also love the fact that, um, first of all, I love the name as well, but I (2:39) love the fact that you're educating. (2:41) And so you're tying in, you know, what we've known in landscape architecture (2:47) and landscape design of having something beautiful on your property, but you've, (2:50) you've tied in, you know, health and wellness and actually saving our (2:54) environment, which is so important, giving back to mother earth. (2:59) So, so many of the aspects, the synergies of, you know, what you bring to us is, is (3:04) just really so delicious, actually.(3:08) Yes. (3:09) So what I want, I want to have a bunch of questions. (3:12) So, and I'm sure my audience does too.(3:14) First of all, how did this all come about? (3:16) Where did you come up with this idea? (3:18) Share, please.(2:15) Oh my God. (2:15) Just, first of all, I love the idea of having your own healthy wellbeing (2:22) source of food that you can control and you can learn and so awesome for a (2:28) family, I think about my grandchildren and my children, they, they would (2:31) have loved growing up with that.

Cameron James

(3:19) Yeah, for sure. (3:20) So, um, it was in, uh, 2021.(3:23) So after the year, after our world looked a little bit different in 2020, let's just (3:27) say it lightly. (3:28) Um, in 2021, I really spent about nine to 10 months. (3:31) I always, I always joke, but it was true sitting on my yoga mat.(3:34) Um, I was doing odd jobs, making a little bit of money just to make the ends meet. (3:38) Um, but I was really asking God, I was praying to God, like, what am I supposed (3:41) to do? (3:41) What actually matters? (3:43) What's important? (3:44) And it took about nine months. (3:45) I got, I just got goosebumps saying that, um, that I was essentially (3:49) commanded to grow food.(3:51) It was very clear. (3:52) So anybody that's seen the grow food shirt, like that's where it started. (3:55) It's unbranded.(3:56) It's not about a company or anything like that. (3:58) It's really just about a bunch of people who are about growing food. (4:01) And so from there, um, I started growing tomatoes in a horse trough.(4:06) I started throwing my food scraps in a Tumblr, just one of those little backyard (4:10) things. (4:10) Right. (4:11) And I basically said, okay, cool.(4:12) I want to, uh, I want to learn how to grow food. (4:15) I want somebody to pay me to learn how to grow food and I don't want to commute. (4:18) So about a month after that, I found a farm that's literally four minutes down (4:23) the road, four or five minutes down the road from where I live right now.(4:27) It's a family property that we live at and they were building a 52 acre food (4:31) forest. (4:32) Wow. (4:33) So you can't make this up, right? (4:34) The, the divinity and just, just the, the having the right perception to be able (4:39) to see the things that I was asking for, it was literally in our own backyard.(4:42) So I started working at the farm for, let's just call it like six to nine months (4:46) or something like that. (4:47) So I was learning food forestry. (4:49) Um, I was working with other people, some were more or less experienced.(4:52) Some of them were, uh, permaculture designers. (4:54) I know a lot of people are familiar with permaculture, at least these days. (4:57) And, uh, uh, some of the partners that lived on the property, um, ran a company (5:03) called food forest abundance, which again, some people might be familiar with and (5:06) they, uh, that's basically a global cooperative that inspires people to grow (5:10) food instead of lawns.(5:12) And the product that they offer is a design service. (5:15) So they'll do permaculture designs for people's backyards globally. (5:20) Right.(5:20) And, uh, but nobody in central Florida was helping people who would buy these (5:25) designs to actually install it and help them manage it long-term in their landscape. (5:30) So long story short, I became a, a cooperative partner with the, with the (5:34) co-op, uh, specifically here in Florida. (5:36) And we started installing food for us.(5:39) So that's how it got started.

Wendy Cohen

(5:41) Wow. (5:41) And so your actual experience of knowing how to do the landscaping and, and to (5:46) build all the structures that you might need to build, if there are, you know, to (5:50) protect it from any kind of animals or anything, how did you learn that? (5:53) How did you?

Cameron James

(5:54) Yeah.Um, I mean, we live in a world where you can binge and learn things, right? (5:58) So I was every single day I was at the farm. (6:01) So my hands were dirty in the soil. (6:03) I'm asking questions.(6:04) I'm talking to people. (6:05) Uh, my, my sister here bought me, um, a bunch of books. (6:09) She bought me like a stack of books on food forest in Florida and how to grow food.(6:13) Um, I was watching YouTube videos. (6:15) I've I've had, it's going to be tough for me to start naming mentors. (6:18) Cause there's so many people that have had a positive impact on like the (6:21) knowledge that I have today, but so many people, I just scoured for information.(6:25) You know what I mean? (6:25) We go through seasons of our life where we just learn. (6:28) And that was a season of my life where I just learned, but it wasn't just by book (6:31) and video, I was in the land actually doing it. (6:34) So a combination of that, and then starting to partner with and being of (6:39) service to people, obviously, you know, that's our greatest teacher is the (6:42) actual doing of it, uh, between all of this happening so quickly, I was just.(6:48) I was just rushed through, you know, to become a, to become good at something.

Wendy Cohen

(6:52) Wow. (6:53) So you, you took it upon yourself to learn from YouTube and then you (6:56) actually physically were learning and your partner was, was he, (7:00) or tell us about your partner.

Cameron James

(7:02) Yeah, for sure. (7:02) And actually, I guess I have to say this too. (7:03) I'm standing in front of my food forest right now.(7:05) So we have like 45 fruit trees on the property. (7:07) You see some of the ones from my nursery. (7:09) So that was one of my great teachers as well as I was doing it at home.(7:12) So I wasn't just doing it at the farm. (7:13) I got to say that, um, at the time. (7:15) So, uh, my partner that came, no, they actually didn't come with us.(7:18) So, um, I'm working with a couple of different people right now. (7:21) At the time I was solo. (7:24) Um, and then I was working with a couple of other partners.(7:26) A couple of them decided to go off and other avenues, which are all (7:29) complimentary to the same industry, but they kind of found like the (7:32) niche that they wanted to go into. (7:33) Um, but right now I have a partner that's, uh, kind of focusing on the (7:37) marketing side, like our brand, which is the bring back Eden, uh, and I'm (7:40) focused much more on the sales and the service and collecting the data, (7:44) being on the front end. (7:45) Uh, and then we're, we have a team right now that does the installation (7:48) and long-term management, but we're also in the process of developing that.(7:50) So, um, in all honesty, people that are interested in this work, (7:53) we've had a lot of interest. (7:54) Our goal is to create the work, which is definitely coming in right now. (7:57) Uh, on a big scale and on a small scale, because it's spring and (8:00) everybody wants to get out here.(8:01) So we're developing our organization. (8:03) Uh, actually, no, I started by telling you when we got on here is I think (8:06) after the last two and a half years, I really just paid attention to what (8:09) people wanted, which people want to grow food on their properties, but (8:12) specifically, what are the questions that we most commonly get? (8:16) And it's, what do I do? (8:17) When do I do it? (8:17) How do I do it? (8:18) And then of course the education of why I'm doing it. (8:21) So after those two and a half years, these last couple of months, I've (8:24) really defragmented the business and looked at like, what are the things (8:28) that we need? (8:28) What are the roles that we need? (8:30) What's the education when you need, what's the process, how can we make.(8:34) And to say all of that in a short way of saying is how can we shorten (8:37) the food force adoption curve? (8:39) Right. (8:40) And that is done by education, but it's also done by the service and the way (8:43) that you guide people through the process.

Wendy Cohen

(9:00) We do have some wonderful landscape architectural designers, (9:04) landscape install firms. (9:06) And obviously they do everything from all the soft scapes, including, you (9:12) know, the pools and the outdoor entertainment areas. (9:16) So what you, what that does is that brings your concept and your ability (9:21) to partner with them and do what you do best and let them do what they do (9:27) best, which is only going to be, you know, an opportunity for trajectory, (9:32) fast growth, really fast growth, which I'm so excited that that has all come (9:36) together, but I want to understand of the projects that you've done so far (9:41) in the last couple of years, tell us, maybe take us from start to finish.(9:46) So if someone's listening to this and maybe they're not in the luxury (9:50) design, build industry, which would be my immediate audience typically, but (9:54) they want to put in one of your food for us in their, in their yard, how big (9:59) of a piece of property do they have to have? (10:01) Can they do a part of their property? (10:03) And then what's the, in a very short, obviously this is only a 20 minute (10:08) podcast, but what are the quick steps in order to engage with you (10:13) and have you do this for them?(8:47) I love it.(8:48) I'm so excited. (8:49) I mean, I think first of all, you coming and meeting all the other (8:53) community members at the Naples luxury conference was great. (8:56) No one is doing this that we are aware of in our community.

Cameron James

(10:15) Yeah, for sure. (10:16) I say I, our, our intention in being of service is always, we're taking what's (10:20) possible with the landscape and we're taking people's goals and we're trying (10:23) to marry them, right? (10:24) So we want to say, Hey, this is what you guys want, but this is also what's (10:27) possible. (10:27) And that's everything from the sun, the water, the soil types and where you live (10:30) and all those types of the context.(10:32) Right. (10:34) But as far as what somebody can do, if you got a small area, that's, you know, (10:38) it's called a six foot wide area, you can build what's called a nest. (10:42) And that is by putting a fruit tree right in the middle, and then you plant (10:46) other plants around it.(10:47) So what we want to do, a lot of people have heard the term companion planting, (10:51) or polyculture might be a word, but we want to bring in a bunch of different (10:55) plants all together that they work together. (10:58) So again, without trying to go through the intricacies of how the system works, (11:02) what we're actually doing is we're creating friends, right? (11:04) And friends all support each other. (11:05) So we can bring all these plants together through time and management, or I (11:10) should say through management over time, we develop the system, right? (11:14) So you can plant things early in it and get say tomatoes or peppers.(11:18) And again, in a really small space, right? (11:20) And you might get the first year you get tomatoes and peppers. (11:23) Maybe by the next year, you get a rack of bananas that produced after it goes (11:27) through a full summer. (11:28) And then by, you know, the second or third year, your fruit tree that you (11:32) planted in the middle, it's called a mango because everybody loves mangoes.(11:35) It's so big that you can't actually grow the tomatoes and the peppers and (11:38) maybe the banana doesn't fit anymore. (11:39) But you've produced food continuously over time in a very small space. (11:45) So it doesn't take much to do this.(11:47) But as far as how much you actually need, it's a direct reflection of the (11:50) goals that people want. (11:51) How much food do you want to produce?

Wendy Cohen

(11:54) Wow. (11:54) Okay.(11:54) That's fabulous. (11:56) So if somebody wanted to do this, what is the kind of initial investment they (12:00) need to have? (12:01) Because, you know, I want to make sure that somebody's, you know, entering (12:05) and contacting you that's qualified and is the right fit. (12:08) So what would you say?

Cameron James

(12:10) Yeah, for sure.(12:11) I mean, in transparency, most of our work is, I would call it like semi (12:15) landscaping jobs. (12:16) As and again, we're not doing like full on landscaping for people because (12:19) most of the time that's like lined bushes and rows of trees. (12:22) We do that stuff if it complements the system.(12:25) But I mean, we have packages for, you know, 1500 bucks to just come in and (12:28) put like a fruit tree or two. (12:29) And again, a small guild or a nest like I was just referring to. (12:32) But most of our jobs are between about 20 to 30 grand.(12:35) And what that does is it really complements the existing landscape. (12:39) So we're not doing the entire landscape, like I said, that we can. (12:43) But most of the time we're bringing in aspects of it to expand it.(12:47) So if you looked at traditional backyard, it doesn't matter if it's a (12:50) suburban backyard or, you know, these five acre lots that are very common in (12:53) Florida. (12:54) We're adding to it, right? (12:56) So we're plugging in fruit trees and berry bushes and edible greens. (12:59) But we're bringing in a lot of native plants, exotic plants that bring the (13:03) that develop soil, soil building plants, biomass.(13:07) Again, I don't know if all these terms make sense to people, but the point is (13:09) that we're bringing in different functional plants that develop the (13:12) ecology and the ecosystem over time. (13:15) And we complement it with the edible plants that we want long term. (13:18) So the scale is and I think we'll get through to some of the things we're (13:22) working towards as our conversation goes.(13:24) But really, our goal is to complement the existing landscape. (13:27) And it really just depends on what somebody is looking to accomplish.

Wendy Cohen

(13:46) But I get it. (13:46) It's, you know, as small as you, you know, can start. (13:50) But I'm guessing that probably the people that really want to, you know, (13:56) have something that is long lasting, that they can teach their children or (13:59) their family, and they can really, you know, prepare a dinner and a whole, you (14:04) know, salad and all of the herbs that you might need and know that they are (14:09) eating right farm to table from their own backyard, which is really amazing.(14:15) And I'm sure maybe you can just share a little bit that you're probably also (14:19) talking to developers who might want to do a community garden on the property. (14:24) Is that something that's going on?(13:30) Wow, that that makes perfect sense.(13:33) And I love it. (13:34) And I know that we could definitely have a full half day conversation with you. (13:39) And maybe we will maybe in a future education, because I know my audience (13:44) would love to learn more.

Cameron James

(14:26) Absolutely. (14:27) It's the thing that I'm most excited about.(14:29) So feel free to chime in if I start going too much on this. (14:31) But what we've done is we've this concept is not new, right? (14:38) It's just new to really North America, and specifically in Florida. (14:41) It's very common in Central America and South America.(14:44) And what we're doing is, pardon me, we are we have brought we've created a model (14:48) that works in our local ecosystem. (14:50) Pardon me here. (14:53) We put together a model that we can bring to developers that says this is the (14:58) amount of acres that can produce X amount of food for the amount of houses (15:02) that you guys are developing in the community, right? (15:04) And it makes it a very seamless process because now you have you really have (15:09) people you have food in people's actual backyard and in their community.(15:12) So I believe that the solution to all of the world's problems can be found in a (15:17) food forest. (15:18) And while that might be another conversation in this moment, I think it's (15:21) if we can start bringing local seasonal vine ripen food systems into the (15:28) communities that people are moving into, it makes the community much more (15:31) marketable and much more attractive. (15:33) Because now people are going, OK, well, I can live anywhere.(15:36) Everything's kind of cookie cutter houses. (15:38) I'm just buying a house that's it's just a lot like in a house like we all know (15:42) these developments are very basic, right? (15:43) And there's nothing wrong with that, but they are very basic. (15:45) They're not very complex, right? (15:46) So if we can take a portion of the community and bring in an agricultural (15:50) development that can feed those people, to me, that's going to solve a lot of (15:54) the problems.(15:55) It takes the stress off of our current food supply chain. (15:58) It takes away our dependency for petroleum based fuels. (16:01) It takes away time and travel.(16:03) We don't. (16:04) Food miles is another thing like how far you got stuff that's picked in Mexico (16:08) that's sent to California that then comes to Florida. (16:10) You know what I mean? (16:11) So it's like you look at the food miles and therefore the food has to be picked (16:14) early and most of the nutrients ripen in food at the end stages of it being on (16:20) the tree.(16:20) So if we're picking these things so early, we're not even getting the nutrients (16:24) that the plant is designed to provide us, right? (16:27) And then you can get into it being seasonal and those other types of things, (16:30) right? (16:30) So by doing this, we solve a lot of the problems. (16:33) We make our society much more seamless and much more fluid, right? (16:37) So we can go into a development and say, hey, if this is the farm that's on the (16:41) community, you have HOA that people just pay anyways, because the HOA is basically (16:47) a cost to manage the community, right? (16:48) So if you have an agricultural system in the community, then your HOA would be a (16:52) part of taking care of the community. (16:54) Well, I've seen HOAs from 100 bucks to 900 bucks, right? (16:59) So if we come in there and we bump the HOA up a little bit more in a portion of (17:03) that, you know, 50 bucks a month, 100 bucks a month is dedicated to a 300 house (17:07) community, that's an extra $30,000 that could go to the operating cost of a farm.(17:12) And we have a proven model that can show that we can produce enough food, I should (17:17) say, the fruits and vegetables for about 75 to 100 households on an acre.

Wendy Cohen

Cameron James(17:22) Wow. (17:23) So even if you paid the $50, not only, how much would you have spent going to the (17:28) supermarket or even to a farmer's market and bring, it's cost savings.(17:33) It's if anything, right. (17:35) Oh my God. (17:35) And plus way healthier.(17:36) And plus giving back to mother earth. (17:40) I love everything about it. (17:42) I think it's great.(17:42) We're going to definitely offline. (17:44) You and I are going to talk more about that. (17:46) So I know there's going to be lots of opportunity for us to do much, much more (17:51) together, lots of synergies, but part of the podcast is to make sure we introduce (17:57) really cool industry leaders and talk about cool.(18:01) You're truly on the cutting edge and in so many different aspects of what's (18:05) important to our world. (18:07) And then we also talk about living with an attitude of gratitude. (18:11) So maybe share a little bit of, you know, how do you feel and how, how do you feel (18:16) about it and where do you come from having that? (18:19) Talk about that.

Wendy Cohen(18:20) No, I was actually just out to dinner with some new-ish friends last night and we (18:25) started talking about things. (18:26) And first of all, just by the grace of God that we were just so blessed to be here. (18:30) You know what I mean? (18:30) Like that, that's definitely the foundation of all of it.(18:34) But I, I had good parents, you know, I had good parents that raised me well. (18:38) They were very caring. (18:39) They were very present.(18:42) They put their whole lives into raising us. (18:44) You know what I mean? (18:44) There's things that they did that, that like I would learn from and maybe be (18:49) different. (18:50) And there's other things that I would duplicate, but as a whole, I was raised (18:53) very well.(18:54) I've matured in an amazing environment. (18:56) Again, it's, it's probably more than we can go into in this conversation, but the (18:59) house that I live at, again, is a, is a family property. (19:02) And, and by family, it's not blood to be honest with you, but it's family.(19:07) You know what I mean? (19:08) So I was matured in a good environment. (19:10) I have an amazing wife. (19:12) I have amazing brothers and sisters around me.(19:14) I have many amazing people that have come into my life. (19:17) I feel I have an amazing, I call her my sister again, not blood, but like blood (19:22) couldn't make us closer. (19:23) So she's just been a best friend of mine for the last 10 years.(19:26) I just have really quality relationships that make me feel grateful, like truly (19:32) grateful to where I always say it's, I could not pay these people back in my (19:36) life, but I can continue to pay it forward for the rest of my life. (19:39) So I just think environment is everything. (19:41) And just the relationships in my life are what fill me with gratitude.(19:44) There's so many things I could say, things, items, right. (19:47) And experiences and opportunities, but it's the relationships. (19:50) It's the people.(19:51) They're the most stressful on us and they are the most rewarding thing in our life. (19:54) Right. (19:55) So I just feel so blessed and grateful, surrounded by really good people and meeting (20:01) people like you and Darren and going to these networking events and, and having the (20:04) mentorship throughout my life that is, that has helped develop the mental and (20:09) spiritual discernment of like, who are the people that are doing good in this (20:13) world, you know, and I feel very led.

(20:17) Yeah, no, I'm right there with you. (20:20) I mean, it's, it's the souls where, and we're all connected and, and to, to be (20:25) able to appreciate everyone that's around us that we might not all think the same, (20:29) but just feeling unconditional love and just, just being so grateful. (20:34) Like you said, that gratitude brings you to a whole never love level of vibration.(20:39) And so just your company. (20:41) And I want you to share with us, where can people reach you? (20:44) So share with us your website and what all the contact information right now, and it's (20:49) going to be below on the link here. (20:52) So bring back Eden, go ahead.

Cameron James

Wendy Cohen(20:54) Yeah, for sure. (20:55) So you can go to bringbackeden.co. (20:58) Unfortunately.com was not available. (21:00) It's not a surprise.(21:01) So it is .co.company. (21:02) If you're looking for it, I'm sure if you just search it, you could find it. (21:06) And I actually don't know what the Instagram handle is, but I'm sure if you search (21:09) bringbackeden, it's a black and green logo. (21:12) That's bring back eden.

(21:13) But I know the Instagram in below.

Cameron James

(21:26) And you can also find the Bring Back Eden page from, from my personal page. (21:30) But I share a lot of my personal stories through this work. (21:33) And then obviously the Bring Back Eden is the stuff that we're working on.(21:36) It's more of the story and the systems and all the fruit trees and everything like that. (21:41) So yeah, that's where I could get connected with people.(21:16) My, my personal Instagram page, which is where most of my stuff is again, I'm on (21:20) Facebook a little bit, but Instagram is the main place where you can find me. (21:23) It's at Cameron James spirited.

Wendy Cohen

(21:43) And so Cam, do you want people to just reach out through the digital sources or, and then, (21:49) and then just have a conversation with you? (21:51) Is that the process?

Cameron James

(21:53) Yeah.(21:54) I mean, I'll put my phone number too. (21:55) You can also put 916-769-0777. (21:59) I'm, I'm just open.(22:00) You know what I mean? (22:00) I just got a lot of trust and a lot of faith in what's going on and the right people are (22:03) definitely reaching out to me and I'm reaching out to the right people. (22:06) So yeah, Instagram would be a great place if somebody wants to connect with me personally (22:09) for any reason, podcasts, message questions, inquiries. (22:13) If somebody is looking for the actual work, then obviously going through Bring Back Eden (22:17) would be the appropriate place.(22:19) There's, you know, the traditional form at the bottom of the page where you can say what (22:22) you're looking for and we can go.

Wendy Cohen

(22:25) And is there a geographical area that you feel comfortable being able to serve right (22:29) now?

Cameron James

(22:30) Yeah, for sure. (22:31) I'd say we've been throughout the entire state of Florida.(22:33) So I would say anybody who wants to work on their property, we could serve the entire (22:38) state of Florida. (22:39) But if somebody is working on a project, I would love to just have a conversation and (22:44) just, if somebody is working on something in a different state and just wants to hear (22:48) the mindset, I'm open to having that conversation. (22:50) But as far as doing actual work, I would say we focus a lot more on about central Florida (22:55) and south just because our system is designed for that.(22:58) But we've been up in Pensacola and we've actually been in Georgia, Jacksonville, a (23:04) couple other places in the north. (23:05) So yeah, the entire state's good.

Wendy Cohen

Cameron James(23:07) Excellent.(23:08) Excellent. (23:09) So the last pillar of the Powerhouse Cool Collab is giving back to help humanity. (23:14) So share with us your philosophy on that, Cam.

(23:18) Um, you know, it's funny. (23:19) My brain automatically jumps to I want to give away food and I want to give away fruit (23:22) trees and I want to give away a lot of this stuff. (23:25) I also know that being intelligent as a businessman, you also got to build something that's solid (23:28) and stable and foundational right before you start doing that.(23:31) So we have some really exciting things to give away food and to give away fruit trees (23:35) so that they can start growing it in their own backyard and things of that nature. (23:39) But I would say right now, I think our give back is just tending to the land and caring (23:43) for it. (23:43) We're not a part of nature.(23:45) We are nature. (23:47) We're living, breathing beings in the same way that these plants are. (23:51) So I think just being really connected to our environment, which, again, goes back to (23:54) the conversation of the people around us.(23:56) If we're loving God, loving people, loving animals, loving nature and taking care of (24:00) it and being stewards of everything in our lives, then that's where you reap the harvest (24:05) is by stewarding and is by stewardship or is through stewardship. (24:08) So I think that the give back is just pouring into the environment in any way that I can.

Wendy Cohen

(24:15) Well, you clearly are the role model.(24:18) So I love it. (24:19) And so for the audience who's here today, just stand by. (24:23) There'll be a lot of information in the links below.(24:25) And Cameron and I plan on doing a lot of connecting after this. (24:29) And so you're going to hear more. (24:31) And of course, you'll see all of it on my social media, powerhouse social media.(24:36) And I'm just so my gratitude for you sharing your time with us and so much more to come (24:42) cam. (24:42) Thank you again.

Cameron James

Wendy CohenWendy. (24:44) Thank you so much for your time and shout out to the entire powerhouse community.

(24:47) OK, terrific. (24:48) Here we go.